Glückwunsch zum neuen Besucherrekord!

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Re: Glückwunsch zum neuen Besucherrekord!

Beitragvon Tux2017 » 25 Nov 2017 12:07

[quote="mr.minolta"] ....ein neues Hotel mit 295 Zimmern:

OMG, davon mindestens 2/3 Doppelzimmer mit je 2 Leuten drinnen...macht schon über 400 Personen auf einem Fleck :shock:
Ein Lächeln kostet nichts und ist so viel wert...

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Beitragvon Suse » 05 Dez 2017 07:47

Gestern gabs ein neues Interview mit dem aktuellen Minister für Tourismus. Es ist lang, aber für die, die sich mit dem Thema beschäftigen, absolut lesenswert. Er geht eigentlich auf alle relevanten Aspekte ein, den Grad, in dem Einheimische zukünftig in die Branche involviert werden sollen, die Anzahl der Touristen, die er in den nächsten Jahren erwartet (für die, die es nicht alles durchlesen wollen: die halbe Million wird für 2020 angestrebt), und auch auf die Kriminalität und Abzocke.

Ein DMC ist übrigens eine Destination Management Company. Ich mußte den Begriff jedenfalls erst nachgucken, hatte ich noch nie gehört.


Was ich bemerkenswert finde, weil es sich gerade mit meinen frischen Erfahrungen deckt, sind die Aussagen, die er zu Kundenbeschwerden trifft. Auf La Digue ist das, so wie ich es mitbekommen habe, Gang und Gäbe, das Hotel zu wechseln, weil drumherum die Hunde bellen, Hähne Krähen und Leute Musik spielen. Da ist vielen nicht klar, daß sie nach Afrika fahren und es sich dabei um normale Umweltgeräusche der dort lebenden Bevölkerung handelt. So wie man La Digue jetzt schon anmerkt, daß die Insel in großen Teilen irgendwie um authentisches Leben "bereinigt" wirkt, wird das dann weitergehen. :?

Schön ist auch der Hinweis darauf, die Tourismusindustrie solle doch nicht immer alles öffentlich machen, was sie so vorhabe. Tja, durch Klappe halten hätten sich Petitionen gegen die Bebauung der Police und Ternay sicher vermeiden lassen. :wink:

Monday 4 December 2017

The Big Interview with Maurice Loustau-Lalanne

“Don’t fleece the visitor, it will kill the industry ”

In this interview, the Minister for tourism shares what his biggest achievements has been, the challenges he faces, the projects he is working on as well as his optimism for the future. But he speaks of his belief in ‘tourism for all’ but cautions against the lack of honesty of the industry and speaks of his determination to stamp out illegal tourism accommodation.

by K. Carolus

Minister Lalanne, You are now eleven months into your mandate, what would you say are your biggest achievements so far.

Let me give you one each from my portfolio that I consider to be the highlights. For tourism – it is the redistribution of hotel rooms to developers that were ready and eager to invest in Seychelles. That took a long time to discuss amongst ourselves including government and then make the decision to not slow down the pace of development, i.e. bringing in new or additional rooms especially when we take into account look at the civil aviation aspect where there are I think many important results.
With the renegotiation to bring back British Airways to Seychelles, which is a highlight, and the return of a number of European airlines flying directly to Seychelles, we recognized together with the trade at the multi-sectoral meetings or at SHTA meetings, the lack of available hotel rooms proper; there are rooms but they’re in the smaller guest house category where the numbers are not a lot.

With respect to the key issues at Civil Aviation, the airport was too much of a building site for too long, I did put quite a bit of pressure to finish all the different extension and upgrading projects. We’ve managed to open the domestic terminal, which should finally be completed early next year.

In terms of Port and Marine, we’ve finally managed to get a development grant and financing from EU though the European Investment Bank and the Agence France de Development to finance the commercial port extension, a project which is key for the next phase of our development.

We’ve continued to do all sorts of other things in the process; we’ve reviewed a number of new policies. In tourism we’ve reviewed what I think will be quite a controversial matter in relation to vertical integration, it is high time we relook at this.

There was quite a backlash about vertical integration in respect to foreign investors, now that Seychellois investors are involved in DMCs, hotels, transportation etc., what changes are you planning?

We have to be fair and reasonable. If you’re going to give the possibility for a hotel to have an activity in a boat, you need to also to give a company which operates boats the possibility to have a few rooms in a hotel a hotel; otherwise, it’s not fair. The current vertical integration policy allows for keeping a balance all the time that but we need to review it. For example, it talks about “a percentage of” and I think this is wrong, it says a DMC can have so much percentage of hotel rooms, so the more you have hotel rooms, the more rooms a DMC can have. It shouldn’t be that way, I think it should be a fixed amount, we should say 200 or 300 rooms or whatever the number is, but you fix it in time and this is to allow more people to enter in the tourism industry. We must also remember we are signatories to the World Trade Organisation and we cannot discriminate especially with foreign investors. If we have filed a special condition, a reserve or we restricted entry at the beginning and it is listed then we are able to implement this, but if we did not then that particular activity or trade item has not been restricted then we cannot discriminate against them.

You mention you don’t want hold back growth; we have additional airline capacity and yet we have a moratorium on hotel rooms in place. We are also issuing new licences to smaller establishments…

There is no restriction for Seychellois-owned establishments up to 24 rooms, and yes, we continue to approve a change of use, sometimes up to 5-6 a month. Although we will continue to approve change of use, I am becoming a bit concerned about the change of use simply because of their standards. Next year we will also be classifying hotels, not just the large hotels but also the Seychelles Secrets brand – they will have a different label than. In fact everybody is going to be classified, even change of use will be classified.

Why is change of use so problematic?

Unfortunately, at one point we fast tracked change of use, just for the sake of fast tracking them, basically they were illegal accommodation and we legalized them; we’re not going to be entering into this game again, it’s caused us a lot of problems and we’ve got a lot of negative comments. Visitors check into a hotel today they check out tomorrow because of noise they move to another one thinking it’s going to be better but it’s not; there was loud music there, now it’s the dogs, traffic - the problems keep going around. So we need to be clear on the standard. This group of accommodation type represents about 60% of the total.

One can find any number of unlicensed accommodation on offer on the internet. What actions are you going to take to address this?

In Seychelles there is a huge and I say huge, illegal accommodation situation; we have done some work on this and I can confirm that there are over 200 of them and we’re going to be tackling this. In fact I want the Cabinet’s support on this and we’re going to chart a course where we’re going to start the eradication of illegal guesthouses, self-catering establishments. We are small enough to be able have a system in place. Everyone that comes to the airport us is asked where they are staying. Immigration will have an electronic data base and we know what’s licensed; if it does not come up the visitor will be pulled to the side to get controlled. We need to make sure that any visitor to Seychelles goes in a properly-licensed accommodation; government needs to have a fair share of business and we need to be fair to those that conform to the law as opposed to those that are breaking the law. We will endeavour to tackle this and for those that are licensable – we will give that option to be licensed – instead of just shutting them down for the sake of shutting them down.

Every large project that comes along says they are going to create jobs, given our small labour pool, jobs for whom and what about the leakages of the system?

Ideally I would like for every Seychellois to be in tourism, but all of us can’t train only for tourism, we will always need expatriates, otherwise we will slow down that development and yes, there is a cost to it; we have to let them repatriate their money but it’s a global market and it’s a free economy we just have to manage it properly. I wish more Seychellois would get into it and at the Academy we’ve tried to put more emphasis on – even for those who are very poor academically - we giving them skills for them to enter the industry, we developed a two year certificate course that we offer them, some of the make it, some don’t but we continue with it. Ste Anne will have 500 employees, how many of them will be Seychellois, 200 maybe? 400, I hope but it won’t be, that’s the reality, we don’t have the sustainability initially but we have to invest to try and change the course of it.

What of the pressure on the environment for all these other projects?

When you have a developer and have an agreed site and he leaves it to rack and ruin what do we do? We give you an ultimatum for a period of time and if you don’t we’ll to help you either give you a someone to join. We become some sort of deal maker, we shouldn’t but this is what we do. It is best to develop existing sites first. There is always an impact on the environment with virgin sites. If we look back at all our tourism developments when they first started and there are so many examples, there is an impact but then you ask yourself has the environment improved or has it got worse. Lemuria for example, from 15 years ago is integrated today, the model has worked well; With Ephelia it is the same thing, as the biggest hotel in Seychelles, has Ephélia contributed towards the sustainability of the site? Look at the mangroves, I think it would have been worse, no one was taking care of it. Now many people are involved, money is going into it, wildlife and community is part of it clubs. All developments, at the initial stage which the construction phase has an impact, but if you mitigate properly and put some controls, like we do then I think the environment is the winner.

We have had carrying capacity studies that the private sector threw out of the window. What do you think optimum capacity for Seychelles and in rush to build hotels what equity are you leaving for future generations to have a chance to participate in tourism and to build; they’ll have their own ideas as to what and how they want to do things, are we leaving them the space for them to do that ?

My principle is that tourism is for all of us, so we cannot have a development policy that restricts it. It should be there for everybody. Tourism is almost becoming the number two industry in the world, in terms of the economy, job creation, wealth creation, of enjoyment. Everybody, whether it is airlines or universities, sees tourism as the biggest industry going forward, if we agree with his principle which I share, then we have to ensure we provide space for the next generation to also be investing.

The first thing we did here is that half of Seychelles is under conservation so we can’t touch it so let’s look at the remaining half. We have also put a carrying capacity in terms of numbers, and each time we were or we had reached it we have looked at it again. 100,000 was pushed to 150,000 then 300,000, and now to half a million 500, 000. It is 304,000 now, it will be 350, 000 by the end of this year, we have to ask ourselves what is the sustainability of these 350,000 people in our system. We will reach half a million by 2020 and it’s round the corner.
So where will we put them?

We have so many islands in Seychelles, some closer to us, some further away and these islands have nothing on them, that’s where the next phase of the development will come. We have a potential and that’s where the growth will be. The next generation coming should be investing and develop, but it will have to be linked with planes, with boats for us to reach them. There it’s going to be more exclusive, it’s going to bring in more money, the clientele segment is going to be very different, and this is what we want actually. This is what makes me feel comfortable that when the next generation comes they should be singing the song of more high end, more luxury tourism in Seychelles on these islands; that’s where they should be aiming at investing in.

We’ve always looked at visitor arrivals numbers, it’s a fair gauge, but surely there are other measures to measure performance and contribution…

Are there places that are overcrowded in Seychelles or not? What is the return we are getting out of it? This is why the philosophy for Seychelles must always be we increase the numbers, yes, every year we must increase the numbers, but we must slow down the increase of the numbers but on the basis that we get them to spend more money and the island is conducive for people to move around the island al l the time.
And that is why we have changed the focus a little bit. When you look at it today we will have increased spend to 25% more than last year (CBS figures), which is quite a big achievement. This they break down in different categories of services, it is the exchange of real money through the banking system. We want to bring in the Tourism Satellite Account which has different formulae then we can be more accurate in our apportioning of this total money amongst the different sectors.

Comparing the first nine months of 2017 against last year, last year tourism brought in SCR 4 billion, in 2017 this is SCR 5.1 billion, this is SCRI billion more in tourism earnings for the same people. We hope we can reach the SCR 6 billion next year. We employ 17,000 25% of total employment, contributing 30 % towards GDP.

What kind of growth are you looking at for 2018?

We’ve been at 17% - 20% year to date in terms of visitor arrivals. I am forecasting growth between 8 and 10% in visitor arrivals but wanting expenditure to be between 15 and 20%.

What are the biggest challenges do you face right now in tourism?

Safety and security is beginning to show rearing its ugly head, we must not wait until it reaches the extent of where it has in the Caribbean for example – 300 people dying or shot dead as something normal – we all know it is linked back to drugs, we all know we’ve got to fix it, but while we’re doing that we must all understand that we cannot have an immediate overnight fix, but we need to take action; we have taken action but we can’t take action and let then let the perpetrators go. We must also be more reserved in publicizing what we we’re doing. My biggest worry right now is I don’t want the actors in the tourism industry to themselves act in a way, maybe they are not conscious of it, where they jeopardize their own industry if they continue by posting anything on social media. My biggest challenge is we can’t control what they say, but this appeal is whatever you say, think it through and know this goes round the world in double quick time. If you are the mouthpiece people will tend to believe it even if it is not the official version.

My other big challenge is that everybody in the industry has to be honest. I am not saying that everybody is a thief - but we are not very honest when we deal with the visitor – in other words, when a tourist takes a taxi, switch on the meter, don’t fleece the visitor. It happens everywhere, a visitor staying in a self catering buys a coconut, one mang sab, or he buys three little mang blanc for SCR300 rupees. My appeal is don’t do this, it will kill the industry. People may buy because they are hungry but when they learn afterwards it only costs SCR50 rupees, and you fleeced him SCR250 rupees. Consider when you go to the shop and you’re supposed to get 50 cts change and the shopkeeper pockets it you get angry with him, and so you should. Seychellois get angry for a 50 cts on the change for his beer yet he’s prepared to fleece the tourist SCR200 rupees on his taxi fare or something else. This is not correct. This dishonesty is rampant in Seychelles and we should stop this nonsense. It is a shame that this is happening. It gives us a very bad image; we are in the business of tourism for all and we should be practice honesty.
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Re: Glückwunsch zum neuen Besucherrekord!

Beitragvon mr.minolta » 12 Dez 2017 05:04

Die neuesten Horror-Meldungen:


Globales Flugkreuz Mahé

- Jetzt auch Direktflüge aus der Schweiz -


Paradiesurlaub um jeden Preis

- Deutsche Touristenmassen brechen alle Rekorde -

Germany is the top market, sending 47,772 visitors to Seychelles ... This represents a 29 percent increase over last year when Germany sent 37,029 visitors to the island nation.


Und das, obwohl man ihnen gerade den Direktflug weggestrichen hat. Erinnert mich irgendwie an die 50er Jahre. Wenn's gar nicht anders ging, dann fuhr man eben mit dem Motorroller nach Bella Italia, koste es was es wolle.

Jetzt also ein gutes Drittel mehr Teutonen als im letzten Jahr an der Source d'Argent.

Weltklasse!

Aber wundert Euch nicht, wenn Ihr da im nächsten Jahr den Takamaka mit Strohhalmen aus Eimern saufen müßt... :lol:


http://www.seychellesnewsagency.com/art ... +next+year
Man sieht es und man glaubt es kaum:

Seychellen?

Aus der Traum.

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Beitragvon Sibylle » 12 Dez 2017 11:48

Die neuesten Horror-Meldungen:
Globales Flugkreuz Mahé

- Jetzt auch Direktflüge aus der Schweiz -

Was ist denn daran eine Horrormeldung :( die Handvoll Schweizer, die auf die Seychellen reisen? Bin über diese Aussage schon ein bisschen schockiert.

Ich hoffe, das war ein "Verschreiber".

Grüsse aus der kleinen Schweiz
Sibylle

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Re: Glückwunsch zum neuen Besucherrekord!

Beitragvon Pico » 12 Dez 2017 19:14

Sibylle, es geht wohl eher weniger um eine Handvoll Schweizer, sondern um den hemmungslosen Versuch der Seychellen, so viele Touristen wie möglich ins Land zu schaufeln, egal aus welcher Himmelsrichtung; ohne Rücksicht darauf was Massentourismus ebenso anrichtet.

Mit Schweizern selbst hat das nichts zu tun. :-)

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Beitragvon Frenki » 12 Dez 2017 20:51

Sibylle hat geschrieben: ... die Handvoll Schweizer, die auf die Seychellen reisen?

...ein Direktflug für eine Hand voll Leute? Also 5 Personen? Wöchentlich oder täglich? Oder stündlich? Soll ich mit anfassen, oder könnt ihr es noch alleine tragen? Ich frag ja nur ...

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Beitragvon mr.minolta » 13 Dez 2017 11:57

Pico hat geschrieben:Mit Schweizern selbst hat das nichts zu tun. :-)

So ist es.

Ich mag Euch Schweizer sehr! Ihr seid die einzig wirkliche Demokratie in Europa und habt Euch vernünftig aus der EU-Diktatur herausgehalten.

Die interessantesten Schweizer, die ich kennenlernte, traf ich übrigens immer auf den Seychellen. Als Zimmernachbarn im Gästehaus oder am Strand.

Neid und Anerkennung für Euer schönes Land! :D
Man sieht es und man glaubt es kaum:

Seychellen?

Aus der Traum.

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Beitragvon Sibylle » 13 Dez 2017 12:25

mr.minolta hat geschrieben:
Pico hat geschrieben:Mit Schweizern selbst hat das nichts zu tun. :-)

So ist es.

Ich mag Euch Schweizer sehr! Ihr seid die einzig wirkliche Demokratie in Europa und habt Euch vernünftig aus der EU-Diktatur herausgehalten.

Die interessantesten Schweizer, die ich kennenlernte, traf ich übrigens immer auf den Seychellen. Als Zimmernachbarn im Gästehaus oder am Strand.

Neid und Anerkennung für Euer schönes Land! :D


Ich habe auf meinen Reisen viele nette Deutsche kennen gelernt, mit denen ich noch immer Kontakt habe. Mit meinen Landsleuten habe ich eher schlechte Erfahrungen gemacht. Danke für dein Kompliment über die Schweiz! Ich bin froh, dass ich hier leben darf, es ist aber nicht alles Gold was glänzt.

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Beitragvon Klara » 13 Dez 2017 12:38

Meine etwas neidische Anerkennung haben die Schweizer auch und der Akzent der deutschsprachigen Schweizer klingt doch noch erquicklicher als das Berlinern :wink:
LG
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Beitragvon Sibylle » 13 Dez 2017 12:45

Klara hat geschrieben:Meine etwas neidische Anerkennung haben die Schweizer auch und der Akzent der deutschsprachigen Schweizer klingt doch noch erquicklicher als das Berlinern :wink:
LG
Klara


Das Berlinern gefällt mir eigentlich gut. Manchmal hört sich der Schweizer-Akzent eher wie eine Halskrankheit an :oops:
Aber meine deutschen Arbeitskollegen finden das ja irgendwie putzig....

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Beitragvon mr.minolta » 13 Dez 2017 13:18

Sibylle hat geschrieben:Schweizer-Akzent eher wie eine Halskrankheit ... irgendwie putzig

:lol:

Klara hat geschrieben:... erquicklicher als das Berlinern :wink:

Dit find ick och, aber echt, wa?
Man sieht es und man glaubt es kaum:

Seychellen?

Aus der Traum.

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Beitragvon Sibylle » 13 Dez 2017 13:32

mr.minolta hat geschrieben:
Sibylle hat geschrieben:Schweizer-Akzent eher wie eine Halskrankheit ... irgendwie putzig

:lol:

Klara hat geschrieben:... erquicklicher als das Berlinern :wink:

Dit find ick och, aber echt, wa?


Jo Minolta, mer Eidgenosse sind fascht so kuul wie d'Berliner. Me muess nor as "Chochichäschtli" dänke :)

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Beitragvon Suse » 13 Dez 2017 14:18

Sibylle hat geschrieben:Chochichäschtli"


Hihi, das hab ich sogar verstanden! :D
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Beitragvon Sibylle » 13 Dez 2017 14:43

Suse hat geschrieben:
Sibylle hat geschrieben:Chochichäschtli"


Hihi, das hab ich sogar verstanden! :D


Dann musst du dir unbedingt mal das "Totemügerli" von Franz Hohler anhören (gibt es auf youtube). Wenn du das verstehst, verneige ich mich vor dir!

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Beitragvon Suse » 14 Dez 2017 20:39

Sibylle hat geschrieben:
Suse hat geschrieben:
Sibylle hat geschrieben:Chochichäschtli"


Hihi, das hab ich sogar verstanden! :D


Dann musst du dir unbedingt mal das "Totemügerli" von Franz Hohler anhören (gibt es auf youtube). Wenn du das verstehst, verneige ich mich vor dir!


Also bis dahin, wo das eigentliche Gedicht anfängt, hab ich noch halbwegs folgen können, aber dann war Feierabend. Aber wie witzig sich das anhört. Meine französische Verwandtschaft macht sich ja immer lustig, daß Ihr so langsam sprecht, ich glaube das liegt aber nur daran, daß die Pariser so hektisch reden und gegen die alles langsam klingt.
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